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dan
Apr 13 2003
10:41 am

Now that there seem to be no chemical weapons in Iraq, we’re told that they’re in Syria. Is Syria next? Where will Syria move their chemical weapons to if they are invaded? Iran? I can’t believe the American people will buy this shit. Why does nobody ask questions about American chemical weapons? We have huge stashes—and then we act surprised when we find gas masks in Iraqi trenches. Can anyone explain to me why America still has chemical weapons (in violation of international law of course)?

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dan
Jun 27 2003
07:37 am

oh dear, another attack on Canada. Canadians would be proud if they knew Americans cared enough to verbally abuse them.

Anways, the flaw here is a blind trust in the legality of all US govt activities. Does anyone here actually believe that the US govt declares all their chemical weapons and research? To believe that you’d have to be either a baffoon, or completely ignorant of military history.

PS. Guess who buys Canadian uranium?

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Paul
Jul 31 2003
12:25 pm

Iraq used WMD’s on it’s own people. We all know this. So they did have them. Are we to believe they destroyed the rest of their WMD and didn’t tell anyone?

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laryn
Jul 31 2003
12:40 pm

You can read the article for more detail, but I’ve clipped a relevant section here.

“….the chemical weapons which Iraq has been known to possess ? nerve agents like sarin and tabun ? have a shelf life of five years, VX just a bit longer. Saddam’s major bio weapons are hardly any better; botulinum toxin is potent for about three years, and liquid anthrax about the same (under the right conditions). And he adds that since all chemical weapons were made in Iraq’s only chemical weapons complex ? the Muthanna State establishment, which was blown up during the first Gulf War in 1991 ? and all biological weapons plants and research papers were clearly destroyed by 1998, any remaining bio/chemical weapons stores are now ?harmless, useless goo.?

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15854

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Paul
Jul 31 2003
01:10 pm

ah, ok. Thanks Laryn, you shut me up!

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Norbert
Jul 31 2003
03:18 pm

Not that this is too terribly relevant right now, but I just found out that my brother in law was transferred to a chemical weapons depot in Colorado. I thought it interesting.

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dan
Jan 25 2004
09:41 pm

History doesn’t make the headlines, but if any of you are still interested in WMD [not] in Iraq, here’s a great article explaining why they thought it was there, and why it wasn’t there.

Here are some tidbits:

“ Dr. Kay [ex-inspector] said analysts had come to him, “almost in tears, saying they felt so badly that we weren’t finding what they had thought we were going to find ? I have had analysts apologizing for reaching the conclusions that they did.” ”

“ Dr. Kay added that there was now a consensus within the United States intelligence community that mobile trailers found in Iraq and initially thought to be laboratories for biological weapons were actually designed to produce hydrogen for weather balloons, or perhaps to produce rocket fuel. While using the trailers for such purposes seems bizarre, Dr. Kay said, “Iraq was doing a lot of nonsensical things” under Mr. Hussein. ”

“ After the onset of this “dark ages,” Dr. Kay said, Iraqi scientists realized they could go directly to Mr. Hussein and present fanciful plans for weapons programs, and receive approval and large amounts of money. Whatever was left of an effective weapons capability, he said, was largely subsumed into corrupt money-raising schemes by scientists skilled in the arts of lying and surviving in a fevered police state. “The whole thing shifted from directed programs to a corrupted process,” Dr. Kay said. “The regime was no longer in control; it was like a death spiral. Saddam was self-directing projects that were not vetted by anyone else. The scientists were able to fake programs.” In interviews after he was captured, Tariq Aziz, the former deputy prime minister, told Dr. Kay that Mr. Hussein had become increasingly divorced from reality during the last two years of his rule. Mr. Hussein would send Mr. Aziz manuscripts of novels he was writing, even as the American-led coalition was gearing up for war, Dr. Kay said.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/26/international/middleeast/26KAY.html?pagewanted=1&hp