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Goerring on war

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laryn
Sep 16 2003
06:27 am

GOERRING “Of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece.
Naturally, the common people don’t want war — neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America; nor, for that matter, in Germany. That is understood. After all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a Fascist dictatorship or a parliament or a communist dictatorship.”

GILBERT: "There’s one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives. And in the United States only Congress can declare wars.

GOERRING: “Oh, that is all well and good. But voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

From an interview during the Nuremburg trials (Goerring with psychologist Dr. Gustave Gilbert)

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vanlee
Sep 11 2008
12:30 pm

Here’s an article which might be of interest"

Statement on the Interim Progress Report on the Activiteis of the Iraq Survey Group
(Go to cia.gov then to the report by this name.) Doesn’t prove anything totally, but does show we are finding some things…

And yes, I see the tired old Bush equals Nazi connection posted here. Not historically verifiable; only possible in an age where what an actual Nazi was is—-unknown by most.

Note: One may disagree with his specific policy, in Iraq or elsewhere, but that does not make PRes. Bush a nazi.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!! read Mein Kampf, watch testimony of actual old Nazis(lots on History Channel), do research (Nazis and the Occult by Dusty Sklar, William Shirer’s books of WW!! —from a reporter who was there,

(& other sources which have been around for a while and are not shaped by the political correctness of the last few years.)

And don’t forget Winston Churchill’s WWII series, notably the first book.

Then, some of you who wonder why some refer to the Nazis in certain pre war situations do so. And you will see how wonderfully the League of Nations stood up to a real, blatant, evil dictator. And you will see why it is important to know why the Weimar Republic is referred to as a big failure of the Allies. (If we mess up in Iraq, we could sset up something as short lived & worthless as the Weimar Republic.)

But please, remember that a Nazi (now defined as right wing extremist) is not truly that. Maybe right wing onluy in that they despised the other evil dictatorship of Communism. But that is all. Find older books & persons who lived thru WWII to tell you what a Nazi really was.

And you will never use the word loosely on anyone you disagree with again (unless the description actually fits).